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hazards of cost-benefit analysis

  • Dec. 7th, 2018 at 1:13 PM
I found this article on some of the strange reasoning that has gone into economic cost-benefit analyses of climate change both thought-provoking and disturbing:
https://www.resilience.org/stories/2018-11-15/the-climate-crisis-as-seen-by-the-economics-mainstream-2/

A quote:
"Another ecological economist, Clive Spash, explains how a methodology like this, that aggregates gains and losses in money figures, means that dead people in China and India are compensated for by extra golfing holidays in Florida."

There's other weird stuff in there too, like some models valuing the lives of rich people more highly than the lives of poor people.

These examples strike me as obviously wrong, but I wonder how common this type of thinking is in environmental cost-benefit analyses.

Thoughts?

Comments

ilthit: (Default)
[personal profile] ilthit wrote:
Dec. 7th, 2018 07:24 pm (UTC)
It's all very depressing but yeah. Carbon offsets allow the destruction of forest to be compensated by, say, a profit making wind turbine. It isn't equivalent, like saying okay I took your cow and now you have no milk to feed your family but here is a wide-screen TV. It seems to me like another corporate scam to keep the circus going a little longer.
elusiveat: (Default)
[personal profile] elusiveat wrote:
Dec. 11th, 2018 06:54 pm (UTC)
I don't have any specific additional thoughts at the moment, but thanks for responding!
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[personal profile] elusiveat wrote:
Dec. 11th, 2018 06:58 pm (UTC)
On second thought, I do have some thoughts:

First: Yes! I agree!

Second: The other one that makes me uneasy is the idea of "payment for ecosystem services", which I have the feeling often comes down to paying people not to destroy natural resources that we *ought* to be able to take for granted. Somehow the idea of instead punishing people for destroying things (or polluting them, or whathaveyou) is taboo.
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[personal profile] ysabetwordsmith wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2022 01:06 am (UTC)
Well ...
A cost-benefit analysis, or a risk-benefit analysis, is only as good as its data and its process. Data-cropping will absolutely ruin results. Failure to account for the financial cost of lost lives, for example, is one such error. Insurance companies, government disaster departments, and other such groups have presented a price-per-head. Medical industry usually thinks in terms of "a year of healthy life." These can be very useful because environmental degradation both ruins health and ends lives.

Frex, skyrocketing heat is changing acute kidney damage, which used to be fixable with fluids and maybe a few days in the hospital, into chronic kidney failure that won't go away. That's expensive. As another example, a clearcut forest generates a profit only once from one product, logs. Sustainable forestry takes more effort, but provides more jobs over the long run, and produces many products from logs and nuts to hunting, fishing, and photography. The latter is more profitable, but you have to know what you're doing to capitalize on all those different income streams.

A lot of times, people look at profits of mistreating the Earth, and the costs of respecting it; but they forget about the costs of mistreating it and the profits of respecting it. Slovenly accounting makes for slovenly science makes for bad business decisions.

However, if you're good at math and science, then you can crunch those numbers and use them to convince people or shred your opponents' arguments. It's not hard if they're doing a half-assed job in the first place. Some predictions are quite solid, others are flimsy.